0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania

[mathias]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania

(27/08/2013 12:22)markbootsie Wrote:  With reference to my Metrobus. It is registered as a Scania and not a MCW. I have spoken to DVLA and they suggested i contact a preservation site or an owners club to see if there is any proof somewhere that it should be registered as a MCW. 0062 is registered as a Leyland but 0059 is registered as a Metrobus but does not have MCW as its make.I cant find any others to check. Can anyone help with this please

The MPTE bought quite a few Scania BR111DH Metropolitan/MCW deckers in the mid-'70s, and this is where DVLA's confusion may arise.

I'm pretty certain 0063 should be registered as an MCW, but (according to a DVLA Vehicle Enquiry) these 1974 Scanias were -in fact- MCWs;
4032 (RKA 432N) NEW 04-09-1974, DEAD 23-09-1993, DIESEL, BROWN.
4033 (RKA 433N) NEW 04-09-1974, DEAD 30-05-1989, DIESEL, WHITE.
4034 (RKA 434N) NEW 04-09-1974, DEAD 19-12-1989, DIESEL, BLUE.
4035 (RKA 435N) NEW 04-09-1974, DEAD 31-10-1984, DIESEL, GREEN.

...Whereas these ones were listed as being Scanias;
4036 (RKA 436N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 30-08-1989, DIESEL, BLUE.
4037 (RKA 437N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 01-08-1989, DIESEL, BLUE.
4038 (RKA 438N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 07-02-1985, DIESEL, GREEN.
4039 (RKA 439N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 31-10-1984, DIESEL, GREEN.
4040 (RKA 440N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 07-02-1985, DIESEL, GREEN.

As you can see, the ones registered in early Sept '74 were MCWs but the ones in late Sept were Scanias.
Personally, I can't tell the difference (is there a difference?). MPTE 4034 was an MCW;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7964319@N03/5084775200
(Photo Credit; kwk33f)

But MPTE 4040 was a Scania;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22455491@N02/2455571510
(Photo Credit; Martyn Hearson)

Apparently, they were very fast buses (compared to British Leyland/Bristol stuff) with very high fuel consumption (due to energy losses in the transmission) and the usual MCW habit of structural corrosion.
The ones that 'died' in (verona) green seem to have been scrapped by the MPTE after just ten years' service (a terribly short life), whereas the others went to Kingston-upon-Hull Corporation, according to the Liverpool Transport 1957-86 book.
None of them survived into Merseybus ownership in 1986, unlike many Alexander-bodied Atlanteans from the early '70s which lived until they were ousted by the 6501-6623 Volvo B10Bs.

Maybe the DVLA think that if an MPTE decker has MCW bodywork, they automatically assume it must be a Scania, and this may explain why your Metrobus is listed as one?