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(30/10/2013 11:46)37554BY Wrote:  What I know is 30871 has not been seen in a week at leastaccording to a Bury driver I know. If these buses are only there on days. Where are they the rest of the time. Hiding in the depot out of sight I'd guess

never saw it at the depot however noicted that 41785/86 have been in the same spot for weeks and not moved
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(30/10/2013 11:18)37554BY Wrote:  
(30/10/2013 11:15)mic Wrote:  
(30/10/2013 11:10)Mayneway Wrote:  Arh I didn't realise they had had one last week as well. Looks very smart though and they have even gone to the trouble of programming pioneer destinations in.

it will be programmed for all depots

or it could be a thunderbird meaning a Bury driver takes it for the day it use to happen with Bolton buses

Could be but then again you had 30871 last week on loan so it's possible 30876 is also there for a week, I'm sure you will find out

I was in Bury yesterday lunchtime and saw 30871/72 and 76 all on the 98 into Manchester. 30877 came in on the 135 but then spent best part of an hour on the 135 departure stand making life very difficult for 135 bendi drivers and passengers alike. After a mechanic arrived the bus was eventually started and left slowly followed by the mechanic in his van - presumably for the depot. So 30876 did not stay long at Ashton.
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(30/10/2013 14:29)BHA Wrote:  
(30/10/2013 11:18)37554BY Wrote:  
(30/10/2013 11:15)mic Wrote:  it will be programmed for all depots

or it could be a thunderbird meaning a Bury driver takes it for the day it use to happen with Bolton buses

Could be but then again you had 30871 last week on loan so it's possible 30876 is also there for a week, I'm sure you will find out

I was in Bury yesterday lunchtime and saw 30871/72 and 76 all on the 98 into Manchester. 30877 came in on the 135 but then spent best part of an hour on the 135 departure stand making life very difficult for 135 bendi drivers and passengers alike. After a mechanic arrived the bus was eventually started and left slowly followed by the mechanic in his van - presumably for the depot. So 30876 did not stay long at Ashton.

did not think it would
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(30/10/2013 14:29)BHA Wrote:  
(30/10/2013 11:18)37554BY Wrote:  
(30/10/2013 11:15)mic Wrote:  it will be programmed for all depots

or it could be a thunderbird meaning a Bury driver takes it for the day it use to happen with Bolton buses

Could be but then again you had 30871 last week on loan so it's possible 30876 is also there for a week, I'm sure you will find out

I was in Bury yesterday lunchtime and saw 30871/72 and 76 all on the 98 into Manchester. 30877 came in on the 135 but then spent best part of an hour on the 135 departure stand making life very difficult for 135 bendi drivers and passengers alike. After a mechanic arrived the bus was eventually started and left slowly followed by the mechanic in his van - presumably for the depot. So 30876 did not stay long at Ashton.

30876 is on loan today not yestaday
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Photos of 30876 at Ashton, as found on Flickr (credit to photographer):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100574176@N08/10576909256/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/100574176@N08/10575048094/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/100574176@N08/10575022715/
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Problems for 181/182 & 409s tomorrow evening due to the closure of Royton Centre for Road Resurfacing works:

A road closure will be in place in Royton Centre from 2000 on Thursday 31 October until 0600 on Friday 1 November.

Services 181/182 from Manchester
Buses will run via Shaw Road and Edge Lane Street to High Barn Street, then normal route.

Services 181/182 towards Manchester
Buses will run as normal to High Barn Street, then via Edge Lane Street to Shaw Road, then normal route.

Service 409 from Oldham
From Oldham Road, buses will run via Broadway, Burnley Lane, Mill Brow, Middleton Road, High Street and Sandy Lane to Radcliffe Street, then normal route.

Service 409 from Rochdale
From Rochdale Road, buses will run via Radcliffe Street, Sandy Lane, High Street, Middleton Road, Mill Brow and Burnley Lane to Broadway, then normal route.

It going to be fun for 409s tomorrow evening as in the evenings 409s only get 8mins Oldham-Royton and 25mins Oldham-Rochdale, no doubt there will be quite a bit of late running
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OM 66874 has moved to Queens road having been operating on the 53.
37439 another B7 to lose the 58/59 branding.
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Yeah that 409 diversion is going to be stupid, funny but stupid, gonna take best part of an hour to do the oldham to rochdale segment.

As for 66874 that has one huge arse steering whrrl compared to others
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(31/10/2013 00:18)jimbo Wrote:  Yeah that 409 diversion is going to be stupid, funny but stupid, gonna take best part of an hour to do the oldham to rochdale segment.

As for 66874 that has one huge arse steering whrrl compared to others

An extra 35 minutes is a bit extreme considering its evening traffic and not stopping. I would consider the diversion to take about 10-15 minutes, so journey times between Rochdale and Oldham will be about 35-40 minutes. By my understanding there is a decent amount of waiting time at Rochdale and a little bit of such at Ashton - to be honest I don't see much in a sense of late departures, and if so I see little more than 5 minutes unless major glitches are found.

Honestly though, there are enough 8.5m - 9.2m Optares and 9.3m Darts to run the 409 tomorrow evening temporarily, and could have therefore avoided the massive run practically into Middleton then back - rather than continuing to Mill Brow running via Holden Fold Lane like the 402 does to an extent - which runs as Solos usually. This diversion would easily have taken little more than 5 minutes longer than the planned diversion, as stated before expected by me to take 10-15 minutes.

And yet, even so, I don't even believe an Enviro400 would fare badly following this route either!

Either way, the 409 isn't radically busy at this time either so capacity issues I wouldn't see as a problem. Not only that, what would you rather do - run older buses on a diverted route and keeping to time much easier or run brand new buses on a service that is unlikely to turn up at any scheduled point? I wouldn't choose the latter personally.

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Not to sure whether the usual router is on holiday at Oldham this week but there's been some strange going on vehicle wise this week and yesterday was no exception:

Optare Solo on 81A
B7s on 83
Enviro 400s on 24/182s normally there's only the odd one out on here but this week has seen about 3 out daily
B7 on 184

The above is as I've said what I saw while I was out yesterday, sorry for lack of fleetnumbers though
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