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Seen this morning was one of Oldhams Enviro300s on and showing S181 closely followed by a Wright Gemini B9TL on 181 to Royton followed by another Enviro300 on 181 to Royton.
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Did see a Enviro300 driving up Lees Road yesterday afternoon heading off to run a S348, which was already displayed on the front. Guessing that single deckers are being used more for the school services and double deckers will be running on the normal routes.
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Does anyone know of where I can a list of services (commercial and tenders) and possibly their routes that were run by Oldham depot any time around the 1999-2002 time period please?
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Here are some of the services that I can recall from around that time:

18 Rushcroft-Manchester via Oldham, Chadderton, Middleton and Blackley
20 Bacup-Manchester Express via Rochdale, Royton and Chadderton
24 Rochdale-Manchester via Royton, Chadderton, New Moston, Failsworth and Newton Heath
57 Rushcroft-Alt via Shaw, Heyside and Oldham
58 Rochdale-Trafford Centre via Shaw, Oldham, Chadderton and Middleton
59 Rushcroft-Manchester via Shaw, Oldham, Chadderton, Middleton and Cheetham Hill
81 Oldham-Manchester via Werneth and Moston
82 Waterhead-Manchester via Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
83 Sholver-Manchester via Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
149 Oldham-Manchester via Hollinwood, Moston, North Manchester General Hospital and Cheetham Hill
151 Oldham-Cheetham Hill via Chadderton, Hollinwood, Failsworth, Newton Heath and Harpurhey
180 Greenfield-Manchester Express via Lees, Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
183 Greenfield-Manchester Express via Uppermill, Delph, Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
184 Uppermill-Manchester Express via Lees, Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
343 Oldham-Hyde via Lees, Mossley and Stalybridge
355 Oldham-Ashton under Lyne via Delph, Uppermill and Mossley
400 Bolton-Stockport via Bury, Rochdale, Oldham, Ashton-under-Lyne and Denton
402 Royton-Oldham
405 Oldham-Limeside (may have extended to Moston too)
406 Middleton-Limeside via Mills Hill, Chadderton Park, Oldham and Coppice
408 Buckstones-Stalybridge via Shaw, High Crompton, Royton, Oldham and Abbeyhills
409 Rochdale-Ashton-under-Lyne via Royton and Oldham
410/411 Oldham-Higginshaw/Glodwick circulars
412 Derker-Middleton via Oldham, Royton and Boarshaw
413 Buckstones-Sholver via Shaw, High Crompton, Thornham, Royton, Oldham and Moorside
414 Buckstones-Sholver via Shaw, High Crompton, Thornham, Royton, Oldham and Moorside
415 Holts Estate-Middleton via Lees, Greenacres, Oldham, Chadderton and Alkrington
425/426 Holts-Fitton Hill via Abbeyhills and Oldham (may have extended from Holts to Ashton-under-Lyne via Smallshaw)
427 Diggle-Hollinwood via Uppermill, Lees and Oldham (evening/Sunday extension to Manchester - previously daytime extension to Manchester Arndale)
429 Greenfield-Hollinwood via Lees and Oldham (evening/Sunday extension to Manchester - previously daytime extension to Manchester Arndale)
560 Halifax-Commons via Sowerby Bridge, Ripponden and Rishworth (evening/Sunday service, which interworked with 562 and jointly operated with First Calderline)
562 Halifax-Oldham via Sowerby Bridge, Ripponden, Rishworth, Denshaw and Moorside (evening/Sunday service jointly operated with First Calderline)

I know at some point the 408 and 413 may have also extended to Rochdale via Newhey and Milnrow (similar to Rosso's R5 route now between Peppermint Bridge and Rochdale).

The 425 extension to Ashton might have been a replacement for the 56, which ran from Rushcroft to Ashton via Shaw, Oldham and Holts. A YouTube video suggests that there was a 422 to Ashton (extension of the old Stotts 422 route between South Chadderton and Oldham), which may have replaced that too.

The 412 did extend from Middleton to Manchester at some point in the late 90s, although not sure on its route south of Middleton.

The 419 ran in the Oldham area but would have been operated by Dukinfield depot. The 52 extended from Failsworth to Oldham via the 76 route at some point in the early 2000s, but was operated by Queens Road depot.

The 562 evening/Sunday service was a two-hourly service between Oldham and Halifax with an hourly service between Denshaw and Oldham and then a hourly service between Halifax and Rishworth as service 560/562. A bus arriving into Oldham from Halifax would then run a round trip to Denshaw and back before returning to Halifax. A bus arriving into Halifax from Oldham would then do a return trip to Commons and back before returning to Oldham (so Halifax->Oldham->Denshaw->Oldham->Halifax->Commons-> Halifax).
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Regarding 412 extension to Manchester I think it basically followed 112 route out of Middleton as far as Gardeners Arms then down Lightbowne Road, Nuthurst Road, Moston Lane, Kenyon Lane, Lightbowne Road, Northampton Road, Upper Monsall St/Monsall St, Queens Road, Oldham Road and Oldham Street.

From what I can gather it replaced 80 Middleton-Manchester service which got withdrawn.
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Also the 401 would of been running
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(14/09/2020 19:35)SF07 Wrote:  Here are some of the services that I can recall from around that time:

18 Rushcroft-Manchester via Oldham, Chadderton, Middleton and Blackley
20 Bacup-Manchester Express via Rochdale, Royton and Chadderton
24 Rochdale-Manchester via Royton, Chadderton, New Moston, Failsworth and Newton Heath
57 Rushcroft-Alt via Shaw, Heyside and Oldham
58 Rochdale-Trafford Centre via Shaw, Oldham, Chadderton and Middleton
59 Rushcroft-Manchester via Shaw, Oldham, Chadderton, Middleton and Cheetham Hill
81 Oldham-Manchester via Werneth and Moston
82 Waterhead-Manchester via Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
83 Sholver-Manchester via Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
149 Oldham-Manchester via Hollinwood, Moston, North Manchester General Hospital and Cheetham Hill
151 Oldham-Cheetham Hill via Chadderton, Hollinwood, Failsworth, Newton Heath and Harpurhey
180 Greenfield-Manchester Express via Lees, Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
183 Greenfield-Manchester Express via Uppermill, Delph, Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
184 Uppermill-Manchester Express via Lees, Oldham, Hollinwood and Failsworth
343 Oldham-Hyde via Lees, Mossley and Stalybridge
355 Oldham-Ashton under Lyne via Delph, Uppermill and Mossley
400 Bolton-Stockport via Bury, Rochdale, Oldham, Ashton-under-Lyne and Denton
402 Royton-Oldham
405 Oldham-Limeside (may have extended to Moston too)
406 Middleton-Limeside via Mills Hill, Chadderton Park, Oldham and Coppice
408 Buckstones-Stalybridge via Shaw, High Crompton, Royton, Oldham and Abbeyhills
409 Rochdale-Ashton-under-Lyne via Royton and Oldham
410/411 Oldham-Higginshaw/Glodwick circulars
412 Derker-Middleton via Oldham, Royton and Boarshaw
413 Buckstones-Sholver via Shaw, High Crompton, Thornham, Royton, Oldham and Moorside
414 Buckstones-Sholver via Shaw, High Crompton, Thornham, Royton, Oldham and Moorside
415 Holts Estate-Middleton via Lees, Greenacres, Oldham, Chadderton and Alkrington
425/426 Holts-Fitton Hill via Abbeyhills and Oldham (may have extended from Holts to Ashton-under-Lyne via Smallshaw)
427 Diggle-Hollinwood via Uppermill, Lees and Oldham (evening/Sunday extension to Manchester - previously daytime extension to Manchester Arndale)
429 Greenfield-Hollinwood via Lees and Oldham (evening/Sunday extension to Manchester - previously daytime extension to Manchester Arndale)
560 Halifax-Commons via Sowerby Bridge, Ripponden and Rishworth (evening/Sunday service, which interworked with 562 and jointly operated with First Calderline)
562 Halifax-Oldham via Sowerby Bridge, Ripponden, Rishworth, Denshaw and Moorside (evening/Sunday service jointly operated with First Calderline)

I know at some point the 408 and 413 may have also extended to Rochdale via Newhey and Milnrow (similar to Rosso's R5 route now between Peppermint Bridge and Rochdale).

The 425 extension to Ashton might have been a replacement for the 56, which ran from Rushcroft to Ashton via Shaw, Oldham and Holts. A YouTube video suggests that there was a 422 to Ashton (extension of the old Stotts 422 route between South Chadderton and Oldham), which may have replaced that too.

The 412 did extend from Middleton to Manchester at some point in the late 90s, although not sure on its route south of Middleton.

The 419 ran in the Oldham area but would have been operated by Dukinfield depot. The 52 extended from Failsworth to Oldham via the 76 route at some point in the early 2000s, but was operated by Queens Road depot.

The 562 evening/Sunday service was a two-hourly service between Oldham and Halifax with an hourly service between Denshaw and Oldham and then a hourly service between Halifax and Rishworth as service 560/562. A bus arriving into Oldham from Halifax would then run a round trip to Denshaw and back before returning to Halifax. A bus arriving into Halifax from Oldham would then do a return trip to Commons and back before returning to Oldham (so Halifax->Oldham->Denshaw->Oldham->Halifax->Commons-> Halifax).

Oldham ran some services around Ashton too. Sure they ran the 343 and had a go on the 330 as well just prior to PMT handing control of Dukinfield to First Oldham.
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Trying to make a change on the Quack77 fleet list site to update 36279 from Oldham to Bolton and every time I change it, someone moves it back within minutes!! It’s definitely working there as I see it everyday fuelling up at the Arriva depot!! . So annoying. ????
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I don't know which bus at present, but a Enviro200 has been involved in a RTC on Oldham road in Ashton. Almost head on collision with damage around the drivers side and an obviously written off car. I hope the bus driver and all passengers are okay
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Well if its an Enviro200 that counts out it being a First Manchester vehicle as they haven't got any in their fleet, it could have been a Stagecoach one as both Middleton and Ashton Depot's have them allocated at their respective depots.
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