Liverpool City Centre Traffic Issues

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RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot

(15/10/2018 08:21)motormayhem1 Wrote:  Lime street is another gridlock area as sometimes it can take 15-20 mins to get from the bottom of london road to queen square.

(15/10/2018 13:26)mr t Wrote:  And that is because Queen Square was only built with 4 alighting bays so traffic builds up along Lime Street
to and up London Road pretty much all day, as the traffic lights into it from St Johns Lane only have space for 4 buses at a time so traffic has to wait on Lime St...always been that way since was opened....but has anything been done to help buses since ??? Well about 2 years ago they made the left hand lane buses only but thats about HOWEVER now traffic from the station side is queuing up the outside lane they block buses from London Road side from being to enter it now until the lights change at Queen Square

What can be done though at Queen Square? There isn't really much space to put extra alighting bays. The only option is to move a few alighting buses into the empty stands.
Stands 12 could be for the 47 & X2. Stand 11 for the 53, Stand 10 for 300, 310, 345 (retime these services so there aren't so many clashes). These can then allow pick ups and drop offs on the stand. No need for using the alighting stand. Put all L1 buses into Stand 10 (10A, 79C, 79D). Combined, that takes around 37 buses per hour out of the alighting stand which should be a massive help.

It's a shame Whitechapel isn't any better for alighting or you could move buses round there. Compared to other big cities, Liverpool has a lot of buses going the same way. Manchester you have buses going round to all the different termini using what generally feels like 'back streets'. I don't see why Liverpool buses all feel the need to follow eachother. Why doesn't a someone mix things up a little. No bus runs from the top of Low Hill towards Brownlow Hill. Back when the flyover was open, nothing ran from London Road, over the flyover to avoid the traffic into Queen Square.

Though Queen Square is a busy stop, I think bus companies would encourage more people to use buses by avoiding Queen Square as it's such a busy point. If you work in the city centre, it's probably quicker to drive if it is taking you 15 mins to get from London Road to Queen Square on a bus. Pall Mall/Old Hall Street areas have lots of offices, why does only the 54A and the tendered 136 go over that way? Again, avoiding Queen Square, you could get some of these office workers. If you live in south Liverpool, there is no way of getting to these areas without using the D buses but they go through Queen Square.

Why can't buses in Liverpool just follow their own route. Busy stops may only be busy because it's quicker to walk than it is to catch the bus. More express buses and those not serving traffic hotspots might just up passenger numbers.