[Archive] Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
The national rail website has a lot of alterations for services to and from Liverpool Lime St.

Services to Manchester Vic , Wigan and Preston , operating from Huyton.

Interesting to see if these will be diesel operated mainly , with others being outbased electric units.

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(28/02/2017 22:44)Sprinterdriver Wrote:  I'm not sure how you know that given that the staffing of the new trains for Northern hasn't even been discussed!

SD.

The second member of staff on DCO services is a franchise requirement as DfT want a visible staff presence on services operating without traditional guards. It also has to be a contracted franchise employee, no agency staff and noone on a zero hours contract. The bit about it being Northern Connect services isn't in the public version of the franchise agreement but seems common sense as new trains are being built so the doors can be released and closed from the driving cab, while it would be costly to modify trains like 150s for DCO or DOO. (The franchise agreement only mentions DCO not DOO but the RMT reject the difference as the second member of staff on DCO services doesn't have to have as much training as a guard.)

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
This is the live signal at Lime Street .

http://www.charlwoodhouse.co.uk/rail/livesig/3

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Parts of the walls have collapse at Lime Street.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-mer...e-39124787

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(01/03/2017 07:36)knutstransport Wrote:  The second member of staff on DCO services is a franchise requirement as DfT want a visible staff presence on services operating without traditional guards. It also has to be a contracted franchise employee, no agency staff and noone on a zero hours contract. The bit about it being Northern Connect services isn't in the public version of the franchise agreement but seems common sense as new trains are being built so the doors can be released and closed from the driving cab, while it would be costly to modify trains like 150s for DCO or DOO. (The franchise agreement only mentions DCO not DOO but the RMT reject the difference as the second member of staff on DCO services doesn't have to have as much training as a guard.)

All very well, but ASLEF and RMT aren't agreeing to extensions of DOO/DCO!

SD.

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
57003 used today to take two 319's stranded after the collapse in the cutting between Edge Hill and Lime St.

319367 was by Edge Hill Box and 319364 was in the cutting.

Three 319's are in Lime St, 319375, 319377 and 319382.

319218 and 219 are still at Allerton.

SD.

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(01/03/2017 22:45)Sprinterdriver Wrote:  57003 used today to take two 319's stranded after the collapse in the cutting between Edge Hill and Lime St.

319367 was by Edge Hill Box and 319364 was in the cutting.

Three 319's are in Lime St, 319375, 319377 and 319382.

319218 and 219 are still at Allerton.

SD.

According to live signal at lime street

http://www.charlwoodhouse.co.uk/rail/livesig/3

319375, 319377 and 319382 are are Platforms 1, 2 and 3.

I hope 319364 and 319367 aren't damaged.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Post to see previous post

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
According to National Rail Liverpool Lime street will not reopen until Wednesday 8th March.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_di...today.aspx

I was reading this article in the Manchester Evening News.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/n...t-12674400

[mikestone]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
https://twitter.com/NetworkRailLIV/statu...48/photo/1
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as the link on the nationalrail site isn't actually a hyperlink