Stagecoach Manchester

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

(31/01/2017 11:44)Mayneway Wrote:  Read his post again. 'Services are poor and don't warrant NEW buses'. No mention of deckers it's the suggestion that Middleton don't warrant new buses.

I am not convinced by this concept of "services warranting new buses". Fleets, as a whole, warrant new buses, as a function of old ones needing to be replaced. Services warrant vehicles of a certain size or capacity, rather than age.

OK, I accept that in some areas, the potential for newer, better, or greener buses to attract and retain customers may be somewhat higher than in others; but in general, I suspect the proportion of passengers for whom vehicle age is a significant factor in choosing to travel by bus is quite small.

(31/01/2017 16:47)ant17612 Wrote:  Not only that but the vast amount of scroats in North Manchester will see these get wrecked. Fag burns, permanent markers etc. Some of Ashton's 30 have been trashed already and these will probably stay intact for a month at best.

Vandalism is a problem regardless of the age of vehicles. Unless a bus is so old that it's going for scrap tomorrow, significant damage needs to be repaired, regardless of the age of the bus. If anything, new buses could have the effect of temporarily reducing the problem; it seems to be a recognised phenomenon that things that are already somewhat shabby and dilapidated are more prone to vandalism than things that are in good condition. In any case, no area of Greater Manchester (or I suspect any other city) is completely immune to vandalism, and keeping new buses away from the rougher areas is at best postponing the inevitable for a short while.

(31/01/2017 16:47)ant17612 Wrote:  On another note their has been no confirmation by Stagecoach themselves so It's pretty much wibble, especially when people thought the Gillmoss extra's were going there!

Well, let's wait and see!