Merseyrail

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RE: Merseyrail

(27/11/2012 19:50)507 mad Wrote:  which kind of rail grinder visits the merseyrail network

This type, but very, very rarely.



Takes a while to grind, and very few places available to stable it, so grinding is usually done during a week long possession. Sometimes it is easier (and cheaper) just to relay the rail.

[jtd508110]

RE: Merseyrail
The RAIB report into the Georgia Varley accident was released today and makes for some interesting reading...

[First Class]

RE: Merseyrail

(27/11/2012 23:54)jtd508110 Wrote:  The RAIB report into the Georgia Varley accident was released today and makes for some interesting reading...

I am now absolutely convinced that this report has effectively cemented DOO being implemented sooner rather than later. Ref: Points 60a, 60b, 61c in the report.

I suspect, short term, Platform Train Dispatch may be implemented as a result. I wonder whether, long term, instead of making guards redundant, they could give (some of) them a role as a safety critical train dispatcher on various platforms.


They seem keen for the person who dispatches the train to be able to immediately stop the train by having the train brake controls immediately to hand. The only person who can do that instantly is the driver.

(Also interesting that RAIB refer to it as a "fatal accident")

[507 mad]

RE: Merseyrail
507009 when i rode it was making a very very high pitched groaning sound.

[507 mad]

RE: Merseyrail
will birkdale sidings 3 and 4 ever see use again by merseyrail

[H101GEV (Administrator)]

RE: Merseyrail

(29/11/2012 20:51)507 mad Wrote:  will birkdale sidings 3 and 4 ever see use again by merseyrail

Are they not still used on occasions, such as stabling over Christmas? I know they are visited on that Arriva Trains Merseyside route learner video on YouTube, although even back then, were very rarely used.

[jtd508110]

RE: Merseyrail
I think I saw 507012 out on the new brighton line today...

[wirralbus]

RE: Merseyrail

(29/11/2012 20:55)507009 Wrote:  

(29/11/2012 20:51)507 mad Wrote:  will birkdale sidings 3 and 4 ever see use again by merseyrail

Are they not still used on occasions, such as stabling over Christmas? I know they are visited on that Arriva Trains Merseyside route learner video on YouTube, although even back then, were very rarely used.

They will see use during the comissioning process for the new units whenever that happens as Merseyrail will need all available space , as there is 59 service units to fit around any extra units stabling will have to take place where stabling may not take place under normal operating conditions , but we are some way away from that at the moment .

[wirralbus]

RE: Merseyrail
Services subject to severe disruption to an incident at Shore Road SubStation , a rail replacement bus service will operate between Birkenhead Central - Birkenhead North and Liverpool St Georges Hall.

[ste]

RE: Merseyrail

(28/11/2012 00:47)First Class Wrote:  

(27/11/2012 23:54)jtd508110 Wrote:  The RAIB report into the Georgia Varley accident was released today and makes for some interesting reading...

I am now absolutely convinced that this report has effectively cemented DOO being implemented sooner rather than later. Ref: Points 60a, 60b, 61c in the report.

I suspect, short term, Platform Train Dispatch may be implemented as a result. I wonder whether, long term, instead of making guards redundant, they could give (some of) them a role as a safety critical train dispatcher on various platforms.


They seem keen for the person who dispatches the train to be able to immediately stop the train by having the train brake controls immediately to hand. The only person who can do that instantly is the driver.

(Also interesting that RAIB refer to it as a "fatal accident")

Pardon my ignorance but whats a DOO? I tried going back a few pages to see if it was explained but to no luck.