(25/02/2020 17:59)iMarkeh Wrote:  I always used to notice at Sir Thomas Street, the bus stop would be full and all these buses would come in and it wouldn't seem to do much but as soon as a 487 turned up, the bus stop would lose like 2/3rds of the passengers waiting. That was when the 2 was around!

Would it make much difference if you swapped the 464 and 487 between Birkenhead and Kings Road? The 464 can and does have bigger buses on the route whereas the 487 can't really increase the size of the buses because of the bridges and how tight the route can be at times.

(25/02/2020 18:57)mrd97 Wrote:  I’ve always thought would be a sensible option. Borough Road is well served enough to lose a double decker bus every half hour (464) and replace it with a single (487)

(25/02/2020 22:25)L401CJF Wrote:  But I would argue this section of the 487 is the most profitable part of the route, the Bebington to Ness section is not that busy outside of peak times in comparison to the Tranmere end

(26/02/2020 12:19)Turbostar19 Wrote:  I can see the merit in doing this, but given that the 464 doesn't operate in the evening, that would leave no direct service between Liverpool & the area around St Catherine's Medical Centre with only the 38 serving it at night.

(26/02/2020 06:42)mrd97 Wrote:  True. The 464, from what I’ve seen, is never packed. I don’t even think it justifies double deckers. Obviously they can’t be put on the 487 though. Hence why the busier section of the 487 Route in Tranmere could benefit from deckers, which could be achieved by swapping the routes around.

Which bridges in Neston are too short for a decker? I assume some are high enough as I’ve seen deckers on the 272 occasionally.

(21/02/2020 16:20)bus401 Wrote:  487 operated by pulsars today,streetlites on other routes.