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RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - St Helens Rider - 21/08/2012 15:01

The reduction in frequency on the 32/32A is a bit of a shock and unless the 33/33A has been retimed cleverly enough, will cause no end of problems on Stand 5 at St Helens Bus Station. Every 10 minutes each was a reasonable balance but the 32/32A now being combined every 15 minutes, the 33/33A are going to have to be crow barred in somewhere.


RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - buses7675 - 21/08/2012 19:03

Mathew Street Music Festival 2012
Sunday 26 and Monday 27 August 2012
Temporary bus timetables Cross river buses

http://merseytravel.gov.uk/articleimages/Mathew%20Street%20Music%20Festival%20Cross%20River%20Temporary%20Bus%20Time​s%202012.pdf

http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_Alpha/Mathew%20Street%20Music%20Festival%20Cross%20River%20Temporary%20Bus%20Time​s%202012.pdf

Same info, two different links!


RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - wirralbus - 21/08/2012 19:13

10 mins from Liverpool One to Birkenhead Bus Station on the 1 what does first think they have as fuel for there vehicles , just about workable if they was going via Birkenhead Tunnel but as there going via Wallasey tunnel its not possible , this service is going to be riddled with buses delayed and running not in service .

I havent checked any of the other timings yet


RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - buses7675 - 22/08/2012 16:09

Valid from 2nd/3rd September 2012:

1/2/2X - Liverpool - Birkenhead -Chester/Ellesmere Port - Chester)
Route 1: this service is unchanged.
Routes 2: an extra Saturday morning bus is introduced from Ellesmere Port to Chester departing at 0726. The 0901 Saturday morning bus from Ellesmere Port to Liverpool is extended to start
from Liverpool Road, Brook Lane at 0833.
Routes X2: some extra morning and early evening buses are introduced.
(All the other times are unchanged.)
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/01%20Liverpool%20-%20Chester%20(from%2003%20September%202012).pdf

17 (Liverpool - Fazakerley, Kirkby or Kirkby Admin)
The Monday to Saturday daytime frequency is increased to every 7/8 minutes. The times are changed.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/17%20Liverpool%20-%20Fazakerley%20or%20Kirkby%20(from%2002%20September%202012).pdf

49 (Crossens - Woodvale)
Route 49A buses are replaced by Route 49 buses, so all buses are now numbered 49 and run in a one-way, clockwise loop in Ainsdale and Woodvale from Kenilworth Road via Cherry Road, Woodvale Road and Gleneagles Drive back to Kenilworth Road.
The Monday to Friday daytime frequency is increased to every 10 minutes and the times are changed.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/49%20Crossens%20-%20Woodvale%20(from%2002%20September%202012).pdf


RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - buses7675 - 23/08/2012 13:48

Valid from 2nd/3rd September!

19/19A/119/244/919 (Liverpool - Gillmoss, Croxteth or Kirkby/Gillmoss Park & Ride - Walton)
Routes 19 and 19A: the times are changed.
(Routes 119, 244 and 919 are unchanged.)
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/19%20Liverpool%20-%20Gillmoss,%20Croxteth,%20Kirkby%20or%20Tower%20Hill%20(from%2002%20Septem​ber%202012).pdf

60 (Bootle - Aigburth Vale)
The Monday to Friday daytime frequency is increased to 10 minutes.
(The Saturday and Sunday times are unchanged.)
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/60%20Bootle%20-%20Aigburth%20(from%2003%20September%202012).pdf


RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - buses7675 - 28/08/2012 14:15

Although not online yet, the Travel News Update for 2nd - 9th September 2012 is in today's Merseymart which has details of all the timetables I have posted above for 2nd/3rd September, but also some for St Helens routes 33/33A & 34/34A from 2nd/3rd September 2012.

Details of the two that are in the newspaper that aren't yet online are as follows:

Valid from 2nd/3rd September:

33 (Sutton Heath - Sutton Manor or Widnes)
All Route 33 and 33A buses are now numbered 33.
The Monday to Friday off peak and Saturday daytime frequency is reduced to a combined 15 minute frequency.
Some times are changed.
Some buses are rerouted to run from Sutton Heath Road to Elephant Lane, so don’t serve Sherdley Road.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/33%20Sutton%20Heath%20-%20Sutton%20Manor%20or%20Widnes%20(from%2002%20September%202012).pdf

34/34A (St Helens - Newton-le-Willows or Leigh)
Route 34A is rerouted to serve Bradlegh Road, replacing a part of Route 20.
The times are changed.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/34A%20St%20Helens%20-%20Newton-le-Willows%20(from%2002%20September%202012).pdf

EDIT - Links to timetables are now added!


RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - CX54 DKD - 28/08/2012 14:29

I can only see the removal of the A prefix causing problems to no end. The amount of passengers who completely ignore the destination display and ask if the driver is going to Thatto Heath despite the display reading Sutton Manor is bad enough as it is!

The changes to the route at the Thatto Heath end make more sense as not a lot of passenger use the loop round by Suttons. It should only be what were the 33A journeys that now make that loop. Although, with that A prefix being removed and passengers being completely oblivious to displays at it is, there's just going to be more problems with people not realising that the bus they're on is not going to complete the Suttons loop. I'd just be interested to hear the logic behind the removal of that A prefix anyway!


RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - SF07 - 29/08/2012 08:52

Service changes for 2-8 September now on the Merseytravel website. Details are:

The following services are changing on 02 September:
2 Southport - Preston
The 0758 Monday to Friday bus from Preston to Southport is retimed to run 5 minutes earlier.

2 Liverpool - Chester
An extra Saturday morning bus is introduced from Ellesmere Port to Chester departing at 0726. The 0901 Saturday morning bus from Ellesmere Port to Liverpool is extended to start from Liverpool Road, Brook Lane at 0833.

2X Southport - Preston
Monday to Friday buses departing Southport at 0717 and 0742 may now run upto 15 minutes earlier in Lancashire during school holidays.

12, 13 Liverpool – Stockbridge Village
The Monday to Friday daytime frequency of both services is increased to 10 minutes and some times are changed.

14, 14A, 14B, 14C, 14X Liverpool – Croxteth or Kirkby
All buses now start and finish at Mann Island in Liverpool city centre. The times are unchanged.

17 Liverpool – Fazakerley or Kirkby
The Monday to Saturday daytime frequency is increased to every 7/8 minutes. The times are changed.

17, 17A St Helens - Widnes
Extra Monday to Saturday daytime Route 17 buses are introduced, meaning the frequency between St Helens and Widnes is increased to every 30 minutes. The times are changed.

18 Liverpool – Croxteth Park
Monday to Saturday daytime buses now start and finish at Mann Island in Liverpool city centre. The times are unchanged.

19, 19A Liverpool – Gillmoss, Croxteth or Kirkby
The times are changed.

20 St Helens – Earlestown or Newton-le-Willows
The frequency is reduced to every 20 minutes, the times are changed and all buses now run between Earlestown and St Helens.

22, 23 Liverpool – Gillmoss Park & Ride
These new Monday to Saturday daytime Routes 22 and 23 are introduced by Stagecoach. Route 22 runs from Gillmoss Park & Ride via Scotland Road to Liverpool city centre, whilst Route 23 runs from Liverpool city centre via Netherfield Road to Gillmoss Park & Ride.

26 Cronton – West Bank
The Saturday service is withdrawn.

32, 32A, 32C Clinkham Wood – Sutton Manor or Clock Face
The Monday to Friday off peak and Saturday daytime frequency is reduced to a combined 15 minute frequency. Some times are changed.

33, 33A Sutton Heath – Sutton Manor
All buses are now numbered 33. The Monday to Friday off peak and Saturday daytime frequency is reduced to a combined 15 minute frequency. Some times are changed. Some buses are rerouted to run from Sutton Heath Road to Elephant Lane, so don’t serve Sherdley Road.

34, 34A St Helens – Newton-le-Willows or Leigh
The times are changed. Route 34A is rerouted to serve Bradlegh Road, replacing a part of Route 20.

44 Crossens - Formby
The Saturday times are changed.

44 Wavertree – Riverside College
Buses are extended, via Runcorn, to start and finish at Astmoor College.

49, 49A Crossens - Woodvale
Route 49A buses are replaced by Route 49 buses, so all buses are now numbered 49 and run in a one-way, clockwise loop in Ainsdale and Woodvale from Kenilworth Road via Cherry Road,
Woodvale Road and Gleneagles Drive back to Kenilworth Road. The Monday to Friday daytime frequency is increased to every 10 minutes and the times are changed.

60 Bootle - Aigburth
The Monday to Friday daytime frequency is increased to 10 minutes.

61 Bootle - Aigburth
The Monday to Friday daytime frequency is increased to 12 minutes and some times are changed.

61 Liverpool – Rainhill, Widnes or Murdishaw
The times are changed.

81, 81A Bootle – Speke or Liverpool John Lennon Airport
The Monday to Friday daytime frequency is increased to a combined 10 minutes and some times are changed.

156 St Helens – Garswood or Ashton-in-Makerfield
The times are changed.

319 St Helens - Ormskirk
An extra Monday to Friday morning bus is introduced between St Helens Bus Station and Ormskirk, departing at 0720.

320 St Helens – Ashton-in-Makerfield or Wigan
The Monday to Friday daytime frequency is increased to five buses each hour and the times are changed.

352 St Helens – Wigan
The times are changed.

375, 385 Southport - Wigan
The times are changed.

620 St Helens – Hindley Green
The times are changed.

X2 Liverpool - Southport
The 1420 Monday to Friday bus from Southport is retimed along the route.

http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/articleimages/Travel%20News%20Update%20-%20Changes%20from%2002%20-%2008%20September%202012.pdf


RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - St Helens Rider - 29/08/2012 11:45

New 34/34A timetable:

http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/34%20St%20Helens%20-%20Leigh%20(from%2002%20September%202012).pdf

New 33 timetable:

http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/33%20Sutton%20Heath%20-%20Sutton%20Manor%20or%20Widnes%20(from%2002%20September%202012).pdf


RE: Merseytravel Timetable Changes - r411 xfl - 29/08/2012 16:47

Looks like 34a replacing our 141 as well by running down maple ave.
As we will no longer be running down that part of route from October