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RE: First Manchester - mic - 02/12/2013 17:32

(02/12/2013 14:36)Benzo Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 12:55)Mayneway Wrote:  I've just noticed two younger Plaxton Darts in Ashton, one on the 39, the other not in service. Think they were 55 reg?? But couldn't be sure as was travelling the other way. They had no fleetnumbers on sides but looked quite smart.

That's very interesting, I'll try and look up the reg if I see one. 40403 and 31929 must definitely have been withdrawn sadly

40403 still in service today

the newer Darts are ADL ones


RE: First Manchester - joe_alker - 02/12/2013 17:36

31929 was in service last week so unlikely withdrawal

However very unusual allocations today 2 olympians on 333/346 loops plus a B9 (MX58EBG) on the 393


RE: First Manchester - mic - 02/12/2013 17:40

(02/12/2013 17:36)joe_alker Wrote:  31929 was in service last week so unlikely withdrawal

However very unusual allocations today 2 olympians on 333/346 loops plus a B9 (MX58EBG) on the 393

34089 on 348/350s if they where to withdrawn 31929 it would be done at weekend


RE: First Manchester - Benzo - 02/12/2013 17:52

(02/12/2013 17:32)mic Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 14:36)Benzo Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 12:55)Mayneway Wrote:  I've just noticed two younger Plaxton Darts in Ashton, one on the 39, the other not in service. Think they were 55 reg?? But couldn't be sure as was travelling the other way. They had no fleetnumbers on sides but looked quite smart.

That's very interesting, I'll try and look up the reg if I see one. 40403 and 31929 must definitely have been withdrawn sadly

40403 still in service today

the newer Darts are ADL ones

Smashing, hope it stays in service for months to come with the 2 or more cascaded darts.
Are these ADL ones in the new Olympia livery?


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 02/12/2013 18:03

(02/12/2013 17:52)Benzo Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 17:32)mic Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 14:36)Benzo Wrote:  That's very interesting, I'll try and look up the reg if I see one. 40403 and 31929 must definitely have been withdrawn sadly

40403 still in service today

the newer Darts are ADL ones

Smashing, hope it stays in service for months to come with the 2 or more cascaded darts.
Are these ADL ones in the new Olympia livery?

Their not ADL but Plaxton. They look very similar to the older R reg Plaxton darts but with LED displays and the plastic modular seating.
Their was two in the bus station do we know exactly how many are at pioneer and are they permanent transfers or loans?


RE: First Manchester - mic - 02/12/2013 18:54

(02/12/2013 18:03)Mayneway Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 17:52)Benzo Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 17:32)mic Wrote:  40403 still in service today

the newer Darts are ADL ones

Smashing, hope it stays in service for months to come with the 2 or more cascaded darts.
Are these ADL ones in the new Olympia livery?

Their not ADL but Plaxton. They look very similar to the older R reg Plaxton darts but with LED displays and the plastic modular seating.
Their was two in the bus station do we know exactly how many are at pioneer and are they permanent transfers or loans?

excuse me but in my fleetbook it says for the batch is that they are ADL dart 10.7m and ADL pointer


RE: First Manchester - mic - 02/12/2013 18:56

(02/12/2013 17:52)Benzo Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 17:32)mic Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 14:36)Benzo Wrote:  That's very interesting, I'll try and look up the reg if I see one. 40403 and 31929 must definitely have been withdrawn sadly

40403 still in service today

the newer Darts are ADL ones

Smashing, hope it stays in service for months to come with the 2 or more cascaded darts.
Are these ADL ones in the new Olympia livery?

old livery


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 02/12/2013 19:26

(02/12/2013 18:54)mic Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 18:03)Mayneway Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 17:52)Benzo Wrote:  Smashing, hope it stays in service for months to come with the 2 or more cascaded darts.
Are these ADL ones in the new Olympia livery?

Their not ADL but Plaxton. They look very similar to the older R reg Plaxton darts but with LED displays and the plastic modular seating.
Their was two in the bus station do we know exactly how many are at pioneer and are they permanent transfers or loans?

excuse me but in my fleetbook it says for the batch is that they are ADL dart 10.7m and ADL pointer

Applogies mic I shall study my fleet book a little more.


RE: First Manchester - mic - 02/12/2013 19:33

(02/12/2013 19:26)Mayneway Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 18:54)mic Wrote:  
(02/12/2013 18:03)Mayneway Wrote:  Their not ADL but Plaxton. They look very similar to the older R reg Plaxton darts but with LED displays and the plastic modular seating.
Their was two in the bus station do we know exactly how many are at pioneer and are they permanent transfers or loans?

excuse me but in my fleetbook it says for the batch is that they are ADL dart 10.7m and ADL pointer

Applogies mic I shall study my fleet book a little more.

ok i think Plaxton had shut by then they have the same engines as stagecoach 33098 to 100

i will have to check the legals did not get a chance today


RE: First Manchester - P528LND - 02/12/2013 20:10

Just to sort out all confusion, Plaxton are still going, even though the name was removed for a short time.

The buses in question, if they are 56 reg, will indeed be ADL Dart SLFs. However if they'd have been built between 2001 and May 2004 they would have been Transbus Darts, as in May 2004 Transbus was sold to its management and was rebranded Alexander Dennis Ltd.

When Transbus took on the Dart in 2001, they changed the engine from the Cummins 6BT to be a Cummins ISBe 4-cylinder power pack which explains the different engine.

These will be amongst the last classic style Darts before the ADL Enviro200 went on to supercede it.

The name Plaxton was never readopted to describe the bodywork worn by the ADL Dart SLFs, and they stuck with just that, the ADL Dart SLF, as by that point, the three companies Dennis, Alexander and Plaxton were well and truly merged. To add, Transbus Coaches were sold before the Buses, subsequently being renamed Plaxton. Plaxton is now a subsidy of ADL and offers Coaches and alternate bus bodyworks to the Enviro range (whether this is true to date or not about the buses I cannot confirm.)

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