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RE: First Manchester - WWH44L - 03/10/2012 08:35
(03/10/2012 01:04)BY37393 Wrote:(02/10/2012 18:25)thomasl1231 Wrote: 69140 is now at Bryn! I had it on the 600 this afternoon at about five o'clockish! What the hell?! :P
Sending 69140 a very good decent B7, in exchange for an older B7 such as 66931 makes no sense
My thoughts as well. Should have sent an MX05/55 over from the same batch. 66907 would have been my bet!
RE: First Manchester - BY37393 - 03/10/2012 11:17
(03/10/2012 08:35)WWH44L Wrote:(03/10/2012 01:04)BY37393 Wrote:(02/10/2012 18:25)thomasl1231 Wrote: 69140 is now at Bryn! I had it on the 600 this afternoon at about five o'clockish! What the hell?! :P
Sending 69140 a very good decent B7, in exchange for an older B7 such as 66931 makes no sense
My thoughts as well. Should have sent an MX05/55 over from the same batch. 66907 would have been my bet!
66907 Was what came to my mind as well, what with 66906 being missing, or as you say one of the older MX05/55 From Oldham Depot
Messes up the fleet batch now
69140/60 it was nice and neat, typical first though.
RE: First Manchester - BY37393 - 03/10/2012 11:28
Has Bolton Dart 40348 been withdrawn can anyone confirm ?
RE: First Manchester - P528LND - 03/10/2012 12:42
From what I've seen, the B7RLE's in Greater Manchester (05/55/06/09) all come at the same rank. None are better than others on paper I don't think.
RE: First Manchester - Nicholas - 03/10/2012 15:33
33695 has broken down on Crescent in Salford with a breakdown contractor in attendance.
RE: First Manchester - WWH44L - 03/10/2012 16:56
(03/10/2012 15:33)Nicholas Wrote: 33695 has broken down on Crescent in Salford with a breakdown contractor in attendance.
Oh dear..ll
lto
Another in service at Bolton is 33677.
Couple of other bits:
Parked up at the bottom gates at BN are TVs 60301 and 61351 which have both been there for over a week so not sure if these are withdrawn.
Dart 40402 is also parked there as well
There is also another breakdown truck parked next to Bolton's. Not sure if it's the one from Wigan.
RE: First Manchester - SF07 - 03/10/2012 18:29
40365 was on the 83 this evening about 6pm-ish heading to Manchester. This week must be Swapshop for the depot, given all the movements.
RE: First Manchester - Nicholas - 03/10/2012 18:32
(23/09/2012 17:13)P528LND Wrote:(23/09/2012 14:15)SF07 Wrote: With the 350 being re-routed, I'm guessing that the 83 service east of Oldham towards Hill Stores (Tesco), Moorside and Sholver will increase to every 7/8 mins meaning no terminating buses at the bus station Mon-Sat daytime.
I'm thinking the Sholver run will be every 15 minutes, unfortunately, but you could be right. I just don't see the patronage for every 8 minutes personally.
Every 7/8 minutes full route.
RE: First Manchester - mic - 03/10/2012 19:44
(03/10/2012 18:29)SF07 Wrote: 40365 was on the 83 this evening about 6pm-ish heading to Manchester. This week must be Swapshop for the depot, given all the movements.
still with first pioneer legals as was 40313
RE: First Manchester - SF07 - 03/10/2012 19:54
(03/10/2012 18:32)Nicholas Wrote:(23/09/2012 17:13)P528LND Wrote:(23/09/2012 14:15)SF07 Wrote: With the 350 being re-routed, I'm guessing that the 83 service east of Oldham towards Hill Stores (Tesco), Moorside and Sholver will increase to every 7/8 mins meaning no terminating buses at the bus station Mon-Sat daytime.
I'm thinking the Sholver run will be every 15 minutes, unfortunately, but you could be right. I just don't see the patronage for every 8 minutes personally.
Every 7/8 minutes full route.
Guessing you've looked on the Traveline website too, as the timetables upto 1 November are now available. 83 and 180/184 will run 8 buses per hour each. However, while buses towards Manchester will run a straightforward 7/8 minute frequency, buses from Manchester a little off-balance.
Also, with the 184s to/from Huddersfield, extra buses will run to Huddersfield in the morning to start from Huddersfield at 0625 and 0725, while buses to Huddersfield will mainly leave Piccadilly at xx20, plus extra journeys from Huddersfield to Manchester at 1825 and 1930. Only odd thing about the Huddersfield journeys is that the current 0730 journey from Manchester will start at Uppermill at 0829 instead, hoping that's an error from Traveline rather than an odd move from First.
180/184:
From Huddersfield: 0625 (via Dobcross), 0725, 0830 and every hour until 1730 then 1825, 1930 to Manchester
From Diggle: 0628, 0705*, 0807*, 0912* and every hour until 1812*, 1907*, 2012* to Manchester then 2325 to Oldham (*-starts from Huddersfield)
From Dobcross: 0634, 0711, 0811, 0922 and every hour until 1722
From Uppermill: 0550, 0620, 0639, 0649, 0704, 0718, 0747, 0755, 0809, 0816, 0832, 0840, 0905, 0920, 0935 then at 05, 20, 35 mins past the hour until 1435 then 1512, 1520, 1535, 1605, 1620, 1635, 1705, 1720, 1735, 1805, 1820, 1915, 1950 (to Oldham), 2020, 2120, 2220, 2333 (to Oldham)
From Greenfield: 0629, 0657, 0733, 0802, 0850 and every hour until 1750, 1843, 1908 (to Oldham), 1950, 2050, 2150, 2250
From Grotton (summary): 00, 07, 15, 22, 30, 37, 45, 52
From Manchester to Huddersfield: 0530, 0630, 0820 and every hour until 1720 plus 0510 from Oldham Mumps and 0829 from Uppermill
From Manchester to Diggle: As Huddersfield journeys plus 2220 via Dobcross
From Manchester to Dobcross: 0807 and every hour until 1807 then 2220
From Manchester to Uppermill: 0530, 0600, 0630, 0640, 0650, 0659, 0713, 0728, 0750, 0807, 0820, 0850 then at 07, 20, 50 mins past the hour until 1720 then 1737, 1750, 1807, 1820, 1843, 1920, 2020, 2120, 2220 plus 0633 from Hollinwood
From Manchester to Greenfield: 0743, 0837 and every hour until 1637, 1713, 1728, 1758, 1837, 1950, 2050, 2150 plus 0704 from Mumps
From Manchester to Grotton (summary): 07, 13, 20, 28, 37, 43, 50, 58
83 (Summary):
From Sholver: 04, 11, 19, 26, 34, 41, 49, 56
From Oldham to Manchester: 05, 13, 20, 28, 35, 43, 50, 58
From Manchester: 02, 10, 17, 23, 32, 40, 47, 53
83/180/184 (Summary):
From Oldham: 04, 05, 11, 13, 19, 20, 26, 28, 34, 35, 41, 43, 49, 50, 56, 58
From Manchester: 02, 07, 10, 13, 20, 23, 28, 32, 37, 40, 43, 47, 50, 53, 58
81A:
From Manchester: Same as existing with extension to Holts until 1718 then 1738 and 1758 to Waterhead, 1817 to Holts, 1847, 1935 to Waterhead. Plus: 0631, 0702, 0732, 1955, 2055 from Oldham to Holts, 2155 from Oldham to Lees
From Holts: 0714, 0728, 0748, 0814, 0834, 0854 and every 20 mins until 1714 to Manchester then 1734, 1804, 1834 to Oldham Mumps, 1929, 2029, 2129 to Oldham bus station
From Waterhead: 0542, 0608, 0628, 0648, 0657, 0727, 0741, 0801, 0827, 0847 and every 20 mins until 1727 to Manchester then 1747, 1817, 1840, 1847, 1900, 1941 to Mumps, 1941, 2041, 2141 to Oldham bus station (two 1941s)
415:
From Oldham: 0617, 0637, 0657, 0719, 0739, 0759 and every 20 mins until 1759 then 1825, 1855, 1955, 2055, 2155, 2255
From Middleton: 0600, 0656 then every 20 mins until 1836 then 1903, 1925, 2025, 2125, 2225