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RE: Merseyrail - jtd508110 - 02/11/2012 00:00

It is outside Birkenhead North Depot, in the same place where 002 was before it recieved its University livery


RE: Merseyrail - H101GEV - 02/11/2012 16:53

Could well have happened during overnight stabling at New Brighton or West Kirby. These two places seem to be where the graffiti attacks take place nowadays. I suppose it is feasible the troublemakers could have accessed the track and spraypainted 507012 where it is now.

While we're on the subject, 507005 has a small amount of the stuff on its centre car and has been going around like this for a good three-four weeks now.


RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 02/11/2012 17:40

i hate seeing trains graffitied its reminds me of the New york subway in the 1980's .

What kicks do they get from doing it ?


RE: Merseyrail - 507 mad - 02/11/2012 21:58

terrible but it would have been good if the trains had anti graffiti stickers over the M's

did they do it over one of it's M's


RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 02/11/2012 23:02

This year Network rail seems to be doing something different with the RHTT on the Merseyrail network because recently there has been a spate of late running associated with the evening peak hour , its been exceptionally bad on the Northern lines between Formby and Cressington and on the Wirral Lines between Bebington and Bache .


RE: Merseyrail - H101GEV - 02/11/2012 23:09

(02/11/2012 21:58)507 mad Wrote:  terrible but it would have been good if the trains had anti graffiti stickers over the M's

did they do it over one of it's M's

Should be able to see 507012 tomorrow provided it hasn't sneaked inside the depot, so will check then. I agree with your point though, or alternatively make a habit of replacing the 'M's that are lost following graffiti attacks. They can do it, as proved when 507023 was selected to be named after Stuart Mason. Make a start with 508110 which is currently in for overhaul I believe and certainly one of the scruffiest units on the network at present.


RE: Merseyrail - Merseyrail 507/508 - 03/11/2012 01:37

(02/11/2012 23:02)wirralbus Wrote:  This year Network rail seems to be doing something different with the RHTT on the Merseyrail network because recently there has been a spate of late running associated with the evening peak hour , its been exceptionally bad on the Northern lines between Formby and Cressington and on the Wirral Lines between Bebington and Bache .


Exceptional Railhead Conditions in the known areas, last year was brilliant adhesion/leaf fall wise, hardly noticeable before but this year it's quite bad.

I don't think it's Network Rail doing anything different, the lines are being treated by the RHTT as usual, but all it takes is a light shower/drizzle, high winds and you have poor railhead conditions.


RE: Merseyrail - jtd508110 - 03/11/2012 13:11

508110 has new "m's" and they really stand out!


RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 03/11/2012 14:30

(03/11/2012 01:37)Merseyrail 507/508 Wrote:  
(02/11/2012 23:02)wirralbus Wrote:  This year Network rail seems to be doing something different with the RHTT on the Merseyrail network because recently there has been a spate of late running associated with the evening peak hour , its been exceptionally bad on the Northern lines between Formby and Cressington and on the Wirral Lines between Bebington and Bache .


Exceptional Railhead Conditions in the known areas, last year was brilliant adhesion/leaf fall wise, hardly noticeable before but this year it's quite bad.

I don't think it's Network Rail doing anything different, the lines are being treated by the RHTT as usual, but all it takes is a light shower/drizzle, high winds and you have poor railhead conditions.

I also wonder whether they are treating the lines in a different order to last year , the delay attributed to ERC seems to be the highest its been for a couple of years , there will probably after the leaf fall season this year be a lessons learned conference between all involved in the RHTT programme.


RE: Merseyrail - First Class - 03/11/2012 15:22

Last year they were discussing axing the MPV and using something a bit more powerful after quite a few failures at Leeds Street bank and around Hamilton Square.

Come the proper Winter, I suspect we'll see the same disruption.

Incidentally, Class 97s have been appearing at Bidston lately.

Generally, over the GB Rail Network, there is a serious increase in ERC, most code red. A colleague spoken with a driver who had a Cat A SPAD, despite OTDR showing he had commenced braking and sanding over 1.5miles earlier on a 70mph line, yet still slid through the junction signal.