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RE: Merseyrail - 507022 - 22/01/2020 23:58
(22/01/2020 23:07)iMarkeh Wrote: Meh, I agree with Mike. While Merseyrail does run a more intensive service (I would argue comparable to C2C in that it's relatively self contained and not affected by other operators much), I think that on the whole, when an issue arises, they can fix it quite quickly by skip stopping which while it affects the PPM, it doesn't affect it as much as being late (at least currently where it is based on arrival time at the end station and not on a per station basis. Staff only need to be type trained once (maybe twice but I don't think there is much difference between the 507 and 508s), and staff have more route knowledge so the potential pool of staff for working services is much higher.
I think that if we compared Merseyrails 'normal' timetable to what actually runs, the PPM would be much lower. For example the temporary timetables which get introduced for large events like The Giants which can leave Chester and Ellesmere Port with a sub standard service. Another thing which is worth mentioning is that for most of last year, they have been dealing with part of the network being closed off for platform works.
As you said, Merseyrail is comparable to C2C and we can also throw in Heathrow Express and even possibly London Overground as these mostly have their own tracks but all with vastly newer trains and more modern infrastructure. Merseyrail has still to compete with these and beat them to finish top two years running.
I think we'll just agree to differ on this one!!
RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 23/01/2020 15:40
The special timetables like for the Giants and Autumn Adhesion (South Wirral) are agreed with Merseytravel.
I would say the vast majority of PPM failures come from the Chester and Southport line services , merseyrails two biggest earning lines.
Southport services majority of the time have a big layover at Southport , but the limit stop is used to enable them to operate efficiently through the Sandhills - Liverpool Central core.
Chester services have always been a bone of contention that the layover at Chester is so poor to be useless in anything but dry weather , any rain and the service hits the skids very quickly , with turnbacks at Hooton , Rock Ferry or Birkenhead Central or more likely these days limited skip stop running . The adhesion timetable adds an extra unit and doubles the Chester layover with consequent improvement in the overall running of the service.
RE: Merseyrail - N271CKB - 02/02/2020 01:01
Looks like a bad Saturday night on Merseyrail, multiple acts of disorder and a late night tresspasser
RE: Merseyrail - Gordon V - 02/02/2020 01:21
(02/02/2020 01:01)N271CKB Wrote: Looks like a bad Saturday night on Merseyrail, multiple acts of disorder and a late night tresspasser
Yes,Hamilton Square, New Brighton, and Hooton and trespass at Leasowe
RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 02/02/2020 09:21
(02/02/2020 01:21)Gordon V Wrote: Yes,Hamilton Square, New Brighton, and Hooton and trespass at Leasowe
Just sounds like the saturday from hell.
There wasnt a full moon last night was there ?
RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 02/02/2020 11:05
With engineering work affecting the line between Chester and Hooton , there is today a 15 minute service to Ellesmere Port , a bit of an enhancement on normal practice.
RE: Merseyrail - knutstransport - 02/02/2020 12:27
(02/02/2020 11:05)wirralbus Wrote: With engineering work affecting the line between Chester and Hooton , there is today a 15 minute service to Ellesmere Port , a bit of an enhancement on normal practice.
Presumably the engineering works must be preventing them terminating trains at Hooton and leaving them there until it is time for the return working.
RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 02/02/2020 14:42
(02/02/2020 12:27)knutstransport Wrote: Presumably the engineering works must be preventing them terminating trains at Hooton and leaving them there until it is time for the return working.
Think by sending the unit down to Ellesmere port it keeps the trains in the correct order , keeping six units on the service.
If the unit stayed at hooton it would mean some trains going crossing over into either pltfm 2 or 3 with the consequent risk of points failing as the train would be there for 30 minutes.
RE: Merseyrail - Walton 46 - 03/02/2020 19:13
One of Merseyrail's trains on a Hunts Cross to Southport service was the victim of a vandal attack (window smashed) sometime after 4pm today. Train was terminated on arrival at Bootle New Strand
RE: Merseyrail - Gordon V - 04/02/2020 01:54
(03/02/2020 19:13)Walton 46 Wrote: One of Merseyrail's trains on a Hunts Cross to Southport service was the victim of a vandal attack (window smashed) sometime after 4pm today. Train was terminated on arrival at Bootle New Strand
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