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RE: Merseyrail - Gordon V - 27/06/2018 20:14
Photos of the new Merseyrail units at this link
https://mobile.twitter.com/LiverpoolTweeta/status/1011201505448382465
Nice comfortable looking seats,not.
Also a bit of seats not lining up to the windows to add to the ambiance
RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 28/06/2018 05:54
The not lining up of seats with windows , is to get as many uni-directional seats in as possible .
These days new trains do seem to have seats that are not very comfortable , it will be a case yet again of wait and see.
RE: Merseyrail - MX12CFE - 28/06/2018 06:31
(27/06/2018 20:14)Gordon V Wrote: Photos of the new Merseyrail units at this linkIs the unit in the pictures a mock up or is it an actual unit in build? Thanks.
https://mobile.twitter.com/LiverpoolTweeta/status/1011201505448382465
Nice comfortable looking seats,not.
Also a bit of seats not lining up to the windows to add to the ambiance
RE: Merseyrail - Gordon V - 28/06/2018 10:09
(28/06/2018 06:31)MX12CFE Wrote: Is the unit in the pictures a mock up or is it an actual unit in build? Thanks.
Mock up so I have been advised
RE: Merseyrail - 508143 - 28/06/2018 13:04
I think in my opinion that when the new train order was placed that the order should have been for 312 bogie coaches to create 52 x 6 car sets.
I like the idea of being able to walk through from 1 end to the other with no coach - coach doors to navugate through, BUT for me, the coaches need to be roughly the length of the current 507/508 cars, however, the difference is that because the units would have been 2 x driving cars + 4 trailers ( 1 or 2 with extra motors and shoe gear to cope with the weight.
The other advantage of a permanently formed 6 car set is that the entire unit can be at least 12 - 18 inches shorter because there would be no tightlock couplers mid set.
In short my idea was for units like the recent S stock sets but as 6 car instead of 7 or 8 like in London.
I am all for the level access idea too but I also go with my suggestion that the new units would have been better as detailed above.
My main concern with the 4 car units that were ordered is that at least 1 section does not have doors on it, so with that point in mind I would have to ask whether a full 4 car unit could be evacuated quickly enough in the event of an emergency on board.
RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 28/06/2018 14:37
There is one door in the leading and rear coaches and two in the two middle coaches , the length of the coaches are shorter as well , so should make the curves on the liverpool a little easier on the ears .
RE: Merseyrail - SK15 GZG - 28/06/2018 17:55
(28/06/2018 14:37)wirralbus Wrote: There is one door in the leading and rear coaches and two in the two middle coaches , the length of the coaches are shorter as well , so should make the curves on the liverpool a little easier on the ears .
There's also the door next to the cab at each of the unit
RE: Merseyrail - MX12CFE - 29/06/2018 06:48
(28/06/2018 10:09)Gordon V Wrote: Mock up so I have been advised
Thanks for that. Heard the Mock up will be put on display in Liverpool at some point.
RE: Merseyrail - wirralbus - 30/06/2018 04:56
What are the milestones for these class 777 trains .
i.e When is the first unit due for testing ?
When does the first Class 507/508 set get Withdrawn ?
What is the contracted date that all 507/508 units have to be withdrawn by ?
Are the 507/508 units getting disability mods to allow them to still be in service after the start of 2020 ?
RE: Merseyrail - ls1911 - 30/06/2018 05:49
(30/06/2018 04:56)wirralbus Wrote: What are the milestones for these class 777 trains .
i.e When is the first unit due for testing ?
When does the first Class 507/508 set get Withdrawn ?
What is the contracted date that all 507/508 units have to be withdrawn by ?
Are the 507/508 units getting disability mods to allow them to still be in service after the start of 2020 ?
The first 777 unit is due early 2019. This will then have 6 months worth of night testing on the Kirkby line. As long as this goes OK it's be8ng claimed the new units will then be delivered at the rate of one a week.
I'm pretty sure come 2020 there will be some 507/8 units still in service prob with an exemption.