(30/08/2020 20:06)Walton 46 Wrote:  Day 1 of the new 500 timetable. Because the Merseytravel issued timetable doesn't mention it's a limited stop service between Aigburth and the Airport, I noticed when I was travelling on the service today there was a lot of confused passengers who stuck out their hand, only for the bus to sail past them.

Also, not sure if this has been discussed previously but I've noticed the new 82A finishes much earlier than the previous previous 500 service. Last bus from Murdishaw is 6.57pm Mon-Sat and 5.27pm on Sunday. The last bus from Murdishaw on the previous 500 was at 9.35pm. Don't think the residents of Hale and Halebank will be too impressed

(30/08/2020 20:44)Liamkennedy2231 Wrote:  Yes, it is a blow to residents of that area, unfortunately. However the positives outweigh the negatives in that there is overall a much better service between Liverpool Airport and Liverpool One now. Beechwood/Aintree (whoever sorts the timetables) should definitely look into the possibility for earlier and later services, as there was quite a demand for this on the previous 500. Runcorn does suffer due to a lack of late running services, therefore affecting many of the communities they serve.

(31/08/2020 07:24)Barney Wrote:  I have no idea what the passenger loadings are on later services from Murdishaw towards Liverpool but assume that Arriva has concluded that there is insufficient demand and not viable. One possible solution could be to run later short journeys to and from the airport but that will only happen if there is sufficient pressure from the local communities that have been adversely affected by these recent changes.

(31/08/2020 21:42)Liamkennedy2231 Wrote:  I see this as an opportunity for Ashcroft who have been quite active in the local bus service scene this year. While the (old) 500 was on diversion via Ramsbrook Ln And Higher Rd into Halebank, they ran a shuttle service from Hale to Speke to maintain connections into Liverpool City Centre.

Potentially there could be a Liverpool Airport to Widnes via Hale service that only runs early morning and late night? This would then at least maintain some links to Runcorn via Hale and Widnes from Liverpool One. 500 from Liverpool One to Airport, then the Ashcroft's Service to Widnes and then the 110/79C into Runcorn.

I know that sounds fiddly but I don’t think neither the local authorities nor operators are willing to invest in earlier/later, direct 82As. Certainly not Arriva anyway.

(31/08/2020 22:30)Barney Wrote:  I suspect that the shuttle service was a temporary contract. Unless the local authority is prepared to subsidise a tendered service, there is little chance of these early morning and late evening services being restored.

(31/08/2020 23:10)Liamkennedy2231 Wrote:  Yes it most likely was, but I mean if Ashcrofts wanted to expand their commercial operations this could be an option. Always theoretical of course, as there are probably many practical problems with my solution.