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RE: Transport for Wales Rail - mikestone - 27/06/2020 18:20

TfW service loaded for w/c 6th July, based on weekday rather than Sunday
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North Wales services generally run Holyhead-Shrewsbury with a shuttle on the Llandudno branch and Crewe-Chester. This results in a reduced service between Shrewsbury and Birmingham International.
Liverpool-Chester stays two hourly.


RE: Transport for Wales Rail - knutstransport - 27/06/2020 19:37

A bit strange they're enhancing services in Wales but not Chester-Liverpool given Wales will remain more locked down than England.


RE: Transport for Wales Rail - wirralbus - 27/06/2020 20:51

They probably reckon that Liverpool - Chester is still best suited to travel on Merseyrail .

The two hourly service means they just need one crew doing Chester - Liverpool Lime street

Dont forget this still isnt a full weekday timetable just yet


RE: Transport for Wales Rail - knutstransport - 28/06/2020 09:27

(27/06/2020 20:51)wirralbus Wrote:  They probably reckon that Liverpool - Chester is still best suited to travel on Merseyrail .

The two hourly service means they just need one crew doing Chester - Liverpool Lime street

Dont forget this still isnt a full weekday timetable just yet

Surely the markets for the TfW Chester-Liverpool services are:
- Liverpool Airport/South Parkway to Cheshire & beyond
- Frodsham/Helsby to Liverpool
- Chester/Frodsham/Helsby to Runcorn
- Frodsham/Helsby to Chester (shared with the Manchester-Chester services)
- Maybe even Cheshire to the West Midlands with a change to the Liverpool-Birmingham service at Runcorn

The only real reason for doing Chester-Liverpool on TfW over Merseyrail is if you have mobility issues and are changing to a non-Merseyrail service at Lime Street e.g. Chester to Huyton.


RE: Transport for Wales Rail - mikestone - 02/07/2020 21:30

TfW website says their trains will not call at Earlestown from Monday due to short platforms - do they normally use single door opening due to the curvature? A couple of weeks NRE included it on the list, but it has subsequently been deleted.
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Most Bidston service are terminating at Wrexham General.


RE: Transport for Wales Rail - T42 PVM - 02/07/2020 21:38

All Doors are used at Earlstown as sometimes you gotta jump off the train to get to the Platform, Not sure whats going on here


RE: Transport for Wales Rail - N271CKB - 02/07/2020 22:43

What would be the thinking behind not serving Wrexham Central, does anyone know?


RE: Transport for Wales Rail - 507022 - 02/07/2020 23:05

(02/07/2020 22:43)N271CKB Wrote:  What would be the thinking behind not serving Wrexham Central, does anyone know?

Very tight turnaround at Central, perhaps, sometimes 1 or 2 minutes.
Could save late running maybe with a longer turnaround at General, but it’s only a guess


RE: Transport for Wales Rail - wirralbus - 03/07/2020 07:12

(02/07/2020 23:05)507022 Wrote:  Very tight turnaround at Central, perhaps, sometimes 1 or 2 minutes.
Could save late running maybe with a longer turnaround at General, but it’s only a guess

In the normal timetable the Bidston - Wrexham Central is given 62 minutes to travel the line in the other 58 minutes , so you can see any delay results in a cancellation or part cancellation of the service usually at Shotton. Which can result in passengers from Neston , Heswall , Upton and Bidston not being happy bunnies.


RE: Transport for Wales Rail - Gordon V - 03/07/2020 20:04

(02/07/2020 21:38)T42 PVM Wrote:  All Doors are used at Earlstown as sometimes you gotta jump off the train to get to the Platform, Not sure whats going on here

Answer here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53276751