(10/12/2012 18:08)wirralbus Wrote:  I think that there is enough of a catchment area for electrification to be feasible to either Woodchurch or Neston .

(10/12/2012 18:08)wirralbus Wrote:  I think that there is enough of a catchment area for electrification to be feasible to either Woodchurch or Neston .

(09/12/2012 22:27)First Class Wrote:  A 4-car unit is sufficient IMO, especially if specified with 3+2 seating. London Overground manage fine with their 378s.

I am fairly confident that something from the Bombardier Electrostar family (377,378,379) will replace the PEP fleet.

I initially thought that the Siemens Desiro City may be considered, but I think it is unlikely, especially with some of the technology being implemented in these designs being fairly untested & new. It also would generate bad press in terms of "Germans taking British jobs" etc etc.

As for any other stock - very unlikely. Merseytravel can't afford to obtain something bespoke. Needs to be something cheap, easy to produce, easy to source parts, and with a proven record in the UK.

You won't get 6-car trains in the future, primarily because carriages are built longer than they used to be. Difficult to lengthen most Merseyrail platforms.

5-car units are a no go because you need 2 car and 3 car mixed sets, fixed 5-car sets are overkill during the day.

4-car units are a good compromise. Longer carriages than present, with better seating configurations. You would probably get a lot more seats in a 4-car 377 with 3+2 seating than a current 507 6-car.

(10/12/2012 16:03)jtd508110 Wrote:  In that case, we were on the same train!! Were you in the DMS A car (with the compressor)? I think if my memory serves me correctly, 508127 was the unit to the rescue. I would like merseyrail to extent to Crewe, but don't see it happening.

(11/12/2012 07:31)MX12CFE Wrote:  

(10/12/2012 16:03)jtd508110 Wrote:  In that case, we were on the same train!! Were you in the DMS A car (with the compressor)? I think if my memory serves me correctly, 508127 was the unit to the rescue. I would like merseyrail to extent to Crewe, but don't see it happening.

Yes i was in the DMS A car i was sat right behind the cab was on my way to my girlfriends in maghull at the time to surprise her for her birthday needed to get there before she did and thankfully i made it thanks to good old 508127 for rescuing us 127 is one of my favourite units i love the sound it makes!