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RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - YN05 WKE - 11/07/2018 14:39
(10/07/2018 23:06)Nwales Bus Wrote: The T4 including a short Sunday T11 alongside the T14 tender has been awarded to Stagecoach
T14 isbthe replacement of T4 as T14 and T14C is Merthyr to Cardiff presume cover brecon to merthyr as well
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - Nwales Bus - 11/07/2018 16:23
The T14 is a diffwrent Traws Service replacing the 39 between Brecon and Hereford. And extending south to Cardiff
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - YN05 WKE - 12/07/2018 09:53
(11/07/2018 16:23)Nwales Bus Wrote: The T14 is a diffwrent Traws Service replacing the 39 between Brecon and Hereford. And extending south to Cardiff
So from Merthyr soon there be T4, T14, X4 all doing the Merthyr to Cardiff section its already a 15 min service any need for any more?
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - Aaron's Transport Pictures - 12/07/2018 10:04
It could be the case of the T14 replacing the short T4 journeys from Merthyr to Cardiff, with a half hourly X4 and half hourly combined T4/T14 but I could be wrong.
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - Aaron's Transport Pictures - 02/08/2018 21:17
Monday to Saturday timetable is now online for the T4 and T14 with the X4 included. Sunday one still not available.
https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Wales/Web%20Timetables/Combined%20T4%20T14%20and%20X4%20Print%20Timetable.pdf
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - mikestone - 04/09/2018 09:19
What's happened to the T10?
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Just seen fleet liveried 22791 leave Hereford station on the 11.15, T14,devoid of passengers and destination showing Stagecoach De Cymru and an A4 sheet in the windscreen
Hereford-Cardiff T14, not a lot of use to anyone coming out of the station looking for a 38 to Hay or Brecon.
It certainly didn't arrive within the permitted margin of delay either.
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As for the T12 precisely what is the point of gluing three routes together for imaginary custom, potentially by extraction from the rail service, at the risk of inconvenience for existing passengers. Presumably the extension to Wrexham was essential so that they could call it express - at least one poster on facebook has fallen for it.
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I am convinced this whole expansion scheme is being managed by someone fired by GTR for incompetence.
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - mikestone - 10/01/2019 22:10
Saw MX09YWV arrive in Wrexham this afternoon on T12 completely empty .
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Didn't see it leave but destination was showing T12 Oswestry, scrolling between intermediate points and connects for Machynlleth
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1515 T3 was Solo SR YJ67FZM
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - Depotosw - 11/01/2019 08:29
(10/01/2019 22:10)mikestone Wrote: Saw MX09YWV arrive in Wrexham this afternoon on T12 completely empty .
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Didn't see it leave but destination was showing T12 Oswestry, scrolling between intermediate points and connects for Machynlleth
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1515 T3 was Solo SR YJ67FZM
The later T12 trips do pick passengers up on the return leg from Wrexham but only in small amounts. I'm aware of some that carry passengers onwards to the likes of Llanymynech and Four Crosses.
The T12 due to objections of running on the core route the Arriva 2 service covers, now expresses mainly along the bypass except for the Orthopaedic Hospital, near Gobowen and through Chirk. It previously for that short period operated the back road into Wrexham and some common sections with the T3.
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - mikestone - 11/01/2019 13:13
Do the rules really specify that they must show the intermediate destination - pretty sure the X7 leaves Leicester showing Milton Keynes.
Not sure how anyone is supposed to know it is limited as seeing a dragon in Wrexham is more likely than finding any printed information!
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - Depotosw - 11/01/2019 15:23
(11/01/2019 13:13)mikestone Wrote: Do the rules really specify that they must show the intermediate destination - pretty sure the X7 leaves Leicester showing Milton Keynes.
Not sure how anyone is supposed to know it is limited as seeing a dragon in Wrexham is more likely than finding any printed information!
Good question! Both Tanat and Lloyds have the service registered in four parts (done by Powys I believe) so typically you will see Machynlleth, Newtown, Welshpool, Oswestry and Wrexham displayed but alternating info the ultimate destination.
Not many have clocked onto the free use on a Saturday as yet but nobody wants to upset Arriva.